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30 May 2006 @ 12:09 pm
 
Selene, Nimue and I ducked out of the cookout yesterday to catch X-men: The Last Stand. Now, previously, I had been warned it was pretty bad, so I lowered my (already low) expectations and gave it a shot. And you know, it wasn't that bad. I mean, it wasn't the best X-men movie, no, but it was still good for a comic book movie, and enjoyable as a movie as a whole.

Some points:
- It's been a long time since I noticed that a soundtrack was actually bad in parts. I mean, parts were OK, but the inspirational music whenever Angel flew was particularly annoying. And loud.
- Angel and Jamie Madrox were both particularly prime examples of "introducing a character, who they then do nothing with." Seriously, it felt like I missed crucial scenes with both their characters doing more than one thing, but I saw the whole thing. Maybe the DVD cut will be like five hours long.
- I *did* like both Juggernaut and Kitty. Both got the exact amount of screen time I wanted, and both hit it just about right. And their final fight scene ruled.
- Whole lotta characters going on here, guys. I was having problems keeping track of everyone. I appreciate that you wanna toss in people just for the fans, but, still, a little restraint.
- The plot was good. The script was, well, lacking in parts.
- Dark Phoenix stood around a lot, didn't she? She was properly scary when she got riled up, though. But where was the big energy bird image?
- Man, lotta deaths for a comic book movie. Main characters aside, which is a different debate, the Brotherhood was just butchering people. And I was fine with it, because it made them actually scary and understand why the government would totally weaponize the cure. When Magento went to stop the convoy and was just crumpling the cars we had just seen were full of people, impressive.
- I noticed more than a couple simple continuity flaws. Like, obvious ones. Sloppy, guys, sloppy.
- Colossus, still underused.
- Beast, actually just about perfect. The fight scenes were a little blurry, but I forgive them, because he still fought like the Beast. Also, "Oh my stars and garters!"
- Hooray, fastball special. And Danger Room. *And* Sentinel. Way to give the fans what they want.
- Iceman vs. Pyro! Solid. Plus icing, up.
- You did stay until the end of the credits, right?
- Anyways.

New trailers:
* Superman Returns - New trailer, this one with the "eye scene" people were raving about. I'm now officially looking forward to this one, also, despite my fears of Spacey hamming it up.
* My Super Ex-Girlfriend - Could be good, could be bad. Trailer had some people laughing. She does throw a shark at him.
* Snakes on a Plane - Teaser trailer, still had people chatting and snickering.
* Ghost Rider - It does look pretty, granted. But I liked this movie a lot when it was called The Crow. Nevertheless, could be decent, time will tell.
* The Omen - Liev Schreiber makes any remake better. But Julia Stiles, shouldn't you be in something better? (David Thewlis, you belong right here, so sit back down.)

I expect the comments to be spoilery, so, enter at your own risk.
 
 
 
Jackbizarrojack on May 30th, 2006 04:33 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised you liked the iceman vs. pyro fight. It was kind of boring, they just stood their for a long time letting the special effects collide, with the beam that didn't look like ice shooting into the beam that only basically looked like fire, and then iceman's, uhhh, special move, was really anti-climactic. I wasn't sure whether they were trying to show that bobby just thought of a new trick, or they were trying to surprise us by finally giving him the special effect he should have had in the first movie (or the extra blue version).
PMMJ: Pop Tart Kittencheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 05:35 pm (UTC)
Oh, the fight could have been an hour longer, sure. But it had a good emotional impact; you *knew* they had to fight it out, and despite Pyro's cool new toys, Iceman still defeated him with his, uh, schooling.

OK, it sounds dumb when I spell it out like that, but I still think they did a good job for a limited amount of screentime.
Jackbizarrojack on May 30th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC)
It felt like a "long" (30 seconds) amount of time with nothing happening, to me, but maybe that's because I'm used to thinking in terms of a ryu vs. ken fight and don't want to stand there doing the ha-dou-ken all day.
rshackleford: running weinerrshackleford on May 30th, 2006 04:57 pm (UTC)
David Thewlis, you belong right here, so sit back down.

Snap! Also, tee hee hee.
Jen Randomjenrandom on May 30th, 2006 05:03 pm (UTC)
neat
PMMJ: Adam Strangecheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 05:08 pm (UTC)
Re: neat
The only one I think that has the official go-ahead is the Wolverine movie, but this would definitely be second in line. They lucked out in that McKellan loves Magneto.

I'm a big fan of the idea to do bunches of spin-off movies. THe fans will line up, as long as they're good.
Jake Thrashjakethrash on May 30th, 2006 06:09 pm (UTC)
Re: neat
Therein lies the rub. As long as they're good. One can only hope.

Hugh Jackman should hold off for a REALLY good script, or he'll disappoint his fans and the fans of Wolverine. (See Elektra)

Overall, most of my opinions about the movie mirror yours. Underused Colossus. Colossus vs. Juggy might have been worth seeing. I did like the battle between Juggy and Kitty. And they did pretty good with Beast, both in his lines (how many people could pull off "Oh my stars and garters!") and in his fight scenes.

Ian McKellan rocks. His Magneto is a joy to watch.
Jackbizarrojack on May 30th, 2006 05:54 pm (UTC)
Re: neat
If that gets good writing and directing, it could be really great. Or it could be "Magneto: first blood pt. II" . . . which now that I have written it down, could be kind of fun.
Josephine: XMen Wolvielovellama on May 30th, 2006 05:09 pm (UTC)
IMO, the movie can be summed up by: Jean's hair-- so cool, Wolverine-- can I have him for a night or thousand? plzkthnx
nazgulpseudotheist on May 30th, 2006 05:28 pm (UTC)
Angel was clearly put in there just because they wanted to put him in. I think he had 1 10 second scene with the other X-men. And I'm impressed that he can fly from New York to San Francisco almost as quickly as the X-Jet...

"You did stay until the end of the credits, right?"
So, what did I miss?
Josephine: FSMBelievelovellama on May 30th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)
I think Warren snuck aboard the plane. :)

Briefly, Xavier put his consciousness into the man with no higher brain function that Moira was monitoring, so survived.
PMMJ: Monsterpiece Theatrecheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
I think Warren snuck aboard the plane. :)

A logical explanation that it sure would have been nice to give us.
PMMJ: Sebulbacheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)
Angel was clearly put in there just because they wanted to put him in. I think he had 1 10 second scene with the other X-men.

If you're not going to use him for anything, what's the point?

And I'm impressed that he can fly from New York to San Francisco almost as quickly as the X-Jet...

Heh, I caught that as well.

"You did stay until the end of the credits, right?"
So, what did I miss?


We cut to Moira coming to the bedside of the braindead person from the video Charles was showing to the class. She's checking his vitals, when the body turns and says, "...Moira..." And she's shocked and says, "Charles?"

It's clearly his voice, too.
nazgulpseudotheist on May 30th, 2006 07:02 pm (UTC)
Argh! Almost worth sitting through the movie agian just to see that scene. It'll probably be nearly as cool on DVD...
keep it darksnidegrrl on May 30th, 2006 07:56 pm (UTC)
I felt that the script was ver much lacking in parts, like you said, but in addition that the plot was a cobbled-together mess. Which can partially be forgiven by the words "comic book movie" but I know they have access to better writers. That is not to say that I did not enjoy watching it. I just rolled my eyes alot. It was still fun. Most of the plot holes I noticed are more than adequately covered here.
PMMJ: Giant robotcheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 09:55 pm (UTC)
the plot was a cobbled-together mess.

It felt rushed, but otherwise I didn't think the plot was *that* bad. I could have fixed some of those holes with a couple lines. (Xavier: "Jean's powers are letting her affect matter on a molecular level.") (Wolverine: "Look, Angel must have snuck onto the X-Jet.")

Which can partially be forgiven by the words "comic book movie" but I know they have access to better writers.

Yeah, that's no excuse anymore, sorry guys.
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PMMJ: Goggles do nothingcheetahmaster on May 30th, 2006 09:56 pm (UTC)
OMG YOU DIDN"T TELL ME THAT WAS FRASIER WTF LOL