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13 November 2007 @ 12:52 am
 
Previously on Heroes...








* Previously: "Jessica wasn't the strong one."
* "It is man's ability to remember that sets us apart."
* "Together we're going to change history." -Adam
* Haitian! Healing!
* FOUR MONTHS AGO
* "Let me go!" Peter saved Nathan!
* The surgery was successful." D.L. lived! Holy cats!
* Alejandro's wedding. I have a bad feeling about this. Only known his blushing bride four months.
* Lone black tear, but in control...
* WHOLE WEDDING PARTY DEAD. "I think I... did it."
* "Did you have to use the full blast on him?" -Bob
* "I am... an old friend of your parents."
* Powers turned off. The Haitian! (Apparently it's casual Friday.) Facility designed to help people like him. Thirty years ago, shut down research on a cure. Uh-huh.
* "You have had a terrible accident." -Angela
* And she tells him Peter's missing. She totally knows he's under wraps. Dude, Nathan's eye is fucked up in a Two-Face sort of way.
* And from one hospital room to another. Interesting parallel, D.L. vs. Nathan.
* No insurance, heh. Taken care of... by Bob! No news from Kirby Plaza or of Linderman's death.
* Ah, Linderman messed things up, and Bob claims to be 'righting the ship.' I'm not convinced that he's not.
* Haircut and "Haitian pills." Oh, hi Adam.
* THREE MONTHS AGO
* Nice St. Joan cake there.
* "We could be like the Fantastic Four. Minus one. But still!" -Micah
* And Nikki's trying the medication, which is (not surprisingly) not working. Bye pills!
* Heh, Adam. Been there a while!
* TWO MONTHS AGO
* "I was just thinking there's more to you than the whole 'sadistic lightning' thing." -Peter
* "I don't have the luxury of being more interesting than that." -Elle
* "Bob's not trying to fix you, Peter." -Captain Obvious Adam
* Oh, hi Heidi. Car crash! Delusional painkillers?
* "There's a dark secret in the Petrelli family." Delusions of grandeur, paranoia. And my, she's being touchy-feely.
* Nikki the car saleswoman! Which is a TERRIBLE idea. "What makes you think this is Jessica?" Meet Gina, apparently the one who runs from trouble.
* Adam tried to take his abilities public. Including his healing blood. Man, laying the manipulation on a bit heavy, Kensei?
* OK, I have two witnesses who heard me say not twenty minutes ago that D.L. would make an awesome firefighter.
* [I Am Legend commercial ZOMG]
* ONE MONTH AGO
* Camera follows Peter phasing, neat. And they're gone.
* Maya the Venezuelan nun, everyone. "It's something evil inside of me." Crap, Alejandro brought a cop! But the brother talks her down.
* And, D.L. (who rules) is shot. But we don't see it. Hmm.
* THREE WEEKS AGO
* Medal of Valor! Huh. More suspicion. Oh, hi Uhura. And hi Bob.
* Transfusion! K, I guess he does have healing blood.
* My these shipping containers look familiar. "Your mother helped me when I was in need." -the Haitian
* New life! "Your secret is safe with me."
* "But it is our meories that shape it and give it purpose."
* Look, it's the, uh, Wandering Rock. OK.
* "Shall we save the world?" -Adam

Moving right along. Much better pacing tonight.

Man, Elle is annoying. Also, major personal space issues.

I am now formally convinced that Angela is a pusher to some degree. The camerawork when she was talking to Heidi, focusing on the touching, not accidental.

I am now partially convinced that Alejandro has no powers, and that he's just helping Maya focus and get the promicin her powers under control.

Oh, and D.L. is totally alive. The death was specifically too off-screen.

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Kensubliminaltea on November 13th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)
I was pretty annoyed at Elle at first, but she's so over-the-top messed up I think I like her now. :D

Did my eyes play a trick on me or did Mama Petrelli grab her daughter-in-law's boobs? That would be an odd way for a domination power to work, but well, who knows.

Yeah, not sure what's going on with the whole DL thing. If he's dead, that was a pretty anticlimactic way to go.

Also... have you though about if Claire is immortal? And with healing blood? The ramifications are interesting. On one hand, she has the potential to stand up to Adam. On the other hand, she might be an angsty hormonal teenager forever. Ugg.
Liz: snoochammitnox on November 13th, 2007 11:17 am (UTC)
Er, I didn't notice any boob-grabbing.
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Not an angsty teen? - selki on November 14th, 2007 02:27 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Lizammitnox on November 13th, 2007 11:15 am (UTC)
Look, it's the, uh, Wandering Rock. OK.

Yeah, that can't end well. The last time someone showed up there looking for Peter, Ricky ended up all carbonized. Hopefully Nathan brought a picture of the two of them together...

partially convinced that Alejandro has no powers

He's got to at least be immune or something, because he doesn't get all black-eye-ey until they start the Oops ritual.

Edited at 2007-11-13 11:16 am (UTC)
PMMJ: Comicscheetahmaster on November 13th, 2007 05:23 pm (UTC)
comic book logic!
I think it's more that Maya can't control her power very well, but she always subconsciously protects her brother. Once she gains better control, I wouldn't be surprised if she could target a single person with it, or something like that. It's just that, currently, she thinks it's out of control, so it is, but her brother can calm her down and, uh, pull it back.
Re: comic book logic! - theantichrist on November 14th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC) (Expand)
MsCongeniality: Comicmscongeniality on November 13th, 2007 01:59 pm (UTC)
I missed the first five minutes or so this week, dammit! I knew Alexandria was a bad idea...

Anyway, I disagree with you on DL but am right there with you on Elle. That girl needs a good smacking. Not sure about Alejandro, but then I don't especially care.
keep it darksnidegrrl on November 13th, 2007 02:04 pm (UTC)
* Haitian! Healing!

What was this note in reference to?

My comments, for public perusal:

1. I agree with Maia that Peter is just way too ridiculously non-reactive. He simply cannot seem to take initiative when he most needs it. It's like they have to do that because obviously otherwise he's too powerful.

2. I maintain that the entire structure of the timeline, in terms of what order they show/leak information to the viewer, is weak sauce. Telling a narrative that is incredibly suspenseful and entertaining - and IN order - is more of a challenge. That said, I am still enjoying it, and it's not as gimmicky as Lost seemed like it was going to be.

3. On a similar note, the focus on Mrs. Petrelli's touchy-feelies and the complete off-screen-ness of DL's second supposed death by shooting is so unsubtle as to be crass. I admit I don't know what they're trying to get at there*, but that's not saying much because I'm pretty dumb about this stuff.

* I mean, the pusher stuff seems obvious to me, and seemed unsubtly offered in earlier scenes. But why this particular moment and this particular touchy-feelyness.

At any rate, it's fun to have these discussions and nice to have a show that offers enough hooks to facilitate them.

Oh, and I hope there's more Matt next week. Hrmph.

PMMJ: Science!cheetahmaster on November 13th, 2007 05:41 pm (UTC)
* Haitian! Healing!

What was this note in reference to?


Oh, Adam explained that it was the Haitian that put the zap on Peter, but that Peter could use Claire's copied healing power to undo what the Haitian did. Which, now that I write it out, suggests a physical component to it.

(Even these tiny nonsensical footnotes help jog my memory as to what happened in that scene.) (A number of these get left out of the wrapup, usually.)

I maintain that the entire structure of the timeline, in terms of what order they show/leak information to the viewer, is weak sauce.

And I still maintain that it's one of my favorite components of the show, and let's them tell interesting and suspenseful stories. Including time-travelers.

I admit I don't know what they're trying to get at there*, but that's not saying much because I'm pretty dumb about this stuff.

I'm eager to see where they go with both.
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mediaprophetmediaprophet on November 13th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
* "There's a dark secret in the Petrelli family." Delusions of grandeur, paranoia. And my, she's being touchy-feely.

...

I am now formally convinced that Angela is a pusher to some degree. The camerawork when she was talking to Heidi, focusing on the touching, not accidental.


Heidi must actually suspect that Nathan is telling the truth. Linderman HEALED her. She can't just take that in stride (pun intended) and then buy Angela's line. Thus either Angela is a pusher or Heidi is scared of Angela - both of which are plausible.

"dark secret that runs in the family" might also be a cute way of hinting that Angela has no power; that the Petrelli patriarch is the one with the mojo.
PMMJ: Darkseid is.cheetahmaster on November 13th, 2007 05:36 pm (UTC)
Thus either Angela is a pusher or Heidi is scared of Angela - both of which are plausible.

Right. They've done an excellent job of being subtle about it this far. It's always entirely believable that she's just very convincing. But the camerawork last night, eliminated the last of my doubts. And Angela doesn't strike me as an overly touchy-feely person most of the time. Only when she's talking someone into something.

"dark secret that runs in the family" might also be a cute way of hinting that Angela has no power; that the Petrelli patriarch is the one with the mojo.

Also, possible, but I still suspect they both have the mojo.
Carrie: Future Hiroaijoskobi on November 13th, 2007 09:28 pm (UTC)
I love Elle! She's doing what every fangirl wants to do -- she's being all kittenish with the delicious Peter Petrelli! Also, Kristen Bell is ADORABLE.

I think Angela has an ability -- it looked like, by touching Heidi, she was influencing her in some way. It might be a weak power, but I think she defiantly has one.

I hope DL isn't really alive! I love when they kill extraordinary people in utterly mundane ways.

Oh, also, if Adam's blood can heal, does that mean Claire's can too? Would his blood be able to cure the Shanti virus?
Carrie: Faithaijoskobi on November 13th, 2007 09:30 pm (UTC)
Oh! And! When Peter was taking the Haitian drugs I referred to them as "the inhibitor" and Phil said "This is Heroes dear, not The 4400."

I so miss The 4400 right now. Le sigh.
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Jackbizarrojack on November 14th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
Angela
I already had this conversation with paul, but wanted to go on the record with whoever else - I'm sticking to my guns about Angela not being a "pusher." I don't think Angela's power is to convince people unless it has some bizarre caveat, like people only do what she says for a little while and then do something completely different. Nobody ever does what she says for very long. At best, there's a range limitation. That is completely stupid, but it's what we've seen, and I take it to mean that her real power is still a mystery.

For all I know, she has no power, and has become significant in "The Company," etc., the old fashioned way - charisma, leadership, vision, etc. The only reason I think she's got one is the supposed hereditary origin of Peter and Nathan's power, and that the comic shows Pa Petrelli having no special power.

I think Angela was just acting creepy, and scared Heidi away, like MP offered as a possibility, above. I don't think Heidi believed her, and the truth that Nathan told her was enough to scare her away. Angela didn't even ask her to leave him, and Heidi never had any reason to share Nathan's "crazy" story anyway, whether she believed it or not. If anything, all Angela did during that scene was convince Heidi that a relatively harmless hallucination from a terribly injured man was somehow threatening information to Angela.


Edited at 2007-11-14 01:21 am (UTC)
The Antichrist: Respek Knucklestheantichrist on November 14th, 2007 10:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Angela
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Re: Angela - pseudotheist on November 15th, 2007 03:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Selkiselki on November 14th, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)
[I Am Legend commercial ZOMG]

The longer preview before Blade Runner at the Uptown was even more ZOMG. Best shot: Legend and his gun and his dog, curled up in the bathtub, listening ... listening ...
The Antichrist: Nervtheantichrist on November 14th, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
Yes I still love the show, but SRSLY 'splain me this.

Step 1) Put the world's (purportedly) most powerful Hero in a cell next to the world's (most likely) oldest "Hero."

Step 2) Make sure they have a convenient way to communicate clearly with each other via air duct.

Step 3) Make sure powers are limited by asking them to put some pills in their mouth daily. They can't fake swallowing, so that's bullet proof.

Step 4) Um. Who needs a step 4? What could go wrong?

WTF. I'm trying to pretend that this was all a setup, 'cuz jesus christ Bob can't be that retarded. Then again Lindermen had no fucking body guards so...
Liz: River not Mirandaammitnox on November 15th, 2007 01:22 pm (UTC)
Step .5) Don't give your sociopathic daughter the magic pills.
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