09 May 2008 @ 05:08 am
 
Previously, on Lost...







Oh, man.


* One turntable, no microphone. The 50's? Huh. "He's twice your age, Emily!"
* CRASH. Hospital. "I'm pregnant!"
* "It's a boy, honey." Premie. "Name him John, please. His name is John."
* Cabin hunt. Walking all day. "What do you mean you're following him?"
* Boat. Chopper returns. Oh, hi Doc.
* "Black pillar of smoke. Threw him fifty feet in the air. Ripped his guts out." -Keamy
* Keamy didn't know how Ben knew all about him.
* Torturing Michael for the info.
* Eye. Locke's, in fact. First up, and hearing... chopping?
* "I'm Horace... Building a getaway for me and the missus."
* Nosebleed. Dead for twelve years! Repeating! More psychometry?
* "You gotta find me, John. And when you do, you'll find him."
* Eye. Locke's, in fact. Ben's awake.
* "I used to have dreams." -Ben
* Mrs. Locke! "He's a fighter, your little John." Adoption?
* "Is that the father?" ALPERT HOLY CATS
* Hugo wants to know why he's been brought along.
* "We can see it because we're the craziest." -Hurley
* Whatever happened to the Dharma Initiative? "We're going to see them." Mass grave.
* Backgammon. Melissa, the sister.
* "I run a school for kids who are extremely special." -Alpert
* Smoke monster drawing!
* Glove, 'Book of Laws,' bottle of... sand?, compass, comic book, knife.
* "Which of these belong to you?" (Dude, this is how they find the new incarnation of the Dalai Lama.)
* He picks the bottle, the compass... and the knife.
* You're sure the knife belongs to you, John?"
* "I'm afraid John isn't read for our school."

Hurley: So. This is where you shot Locke and left him for dead, huh?
Ben: Yes, Hugo. I was standing right where you are now when I pulled the trigger.
[Hurley shifts a little to the side.]
Ben: I should have realized at the time that it was pointless. But I really wasn't thinking clearly.
Hurley: Is that why you killed all these people too?
Ben: I didn't kill them.
Hurley: Well, if the Others didn't wipe out the Dharma Initiative...
Ben: They did wipe them out, Hugo. But it wasn't my decision.
Hurley: Then whose was it?
Ben: Their leader's.
Hurley: But I thought you were the leader?
Ben: Not always.

* Horace, Mathematician. Cabin plans, and map.
* Boat. Mayhew's dead. Chopper's going back.
* Keamy and the captain are only supposed to open the safe together.
* Second protocol. And a folder with the Dharma symbol on it. Where would Ben go to be safe?
* Ah. The captain didn't know about the plan to torch the island.
* "Fix my gun."
* Interesting. The captain wants to keep Sayid and Desmond safe.
* Sayid wants to start ferrying people off the island.
* Locke's sending Hurley home? Nope.
* "He actually thinks staying was his idea. Not bad, John." -Ben
* Young Locke, in a locker. Hee. Hey, looks like someone was a fan of Geronimo Jackson!
* Call from Portland. Mittelos Laboratories, one Professor Alpert. Science camp!
* Locke says he's not a scientist, cares about boxing, sports, cars, etc.
* "Don't tell me what I can't do."
* Frank frees Michael, who tells him about Keamy's plan.
* And Keamy's strapping on... some device.
* And Des won't go back to the island.
* Sayid takes off in the Zodiac. Man, that thing looks like it could hold, what, maybe six people?
* "I was told a lot of things, too." -Ben
* "Those things had to happen to me. That was my destiny."
* Consequences!
* "Guys? Cabin." -Hurley
* And, physical therapy.
* "Don't give up, Mr. Locke. -Abbadon(!)
* "You need to go on a walkabout." He went on one before, huh?
* "Oh, I'm a lot more than just an orderly, John."
* "You'll owe me one."
* Arming up. Morse code came in from the beach, said the Doc's throat was cut.
* And, Frank refuses to fly.
* And, the Doc is dead.
* "Fixed your gun."
* "What is that on his arm?" More the captain wasn't filled in on.
* And, the captain is dead.
* Frank's got the tracking phone.
* And, the beach. Jack's up, against orders. Quick recovery?
* Chopper's coming, something tossed out (and nailing a tent.) Some manuals, and the phone.
* "I think they want us to follow them." -Jack
* Back to the cabin.

Ben: The island wanted me to get sick. It wanted you to get well. My time is over. It's yours now.
Hurley: Yeah. I'm cool with you going in alone.
Ben: Good luck, John.

Locke: Are you Jacob?
Christian: No. But I can speak for him.

* There because he was chosen.
* Claire!
* "There baby's where he supposed to be, and that's not here." -Christian/Jacob
* "How do I save the island?" -Locke
* Hurley and Ben, sharing. Hee.
* "He wants us to move the island." -Locke

Eagle-eyed reporter [info]necrocannibal notes that Horace is played by Doug Hutchison, none other than X-Files's Toomes. Good catch!

More pics to be added later, likely.

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Moira[info]pictsy on May 9th, 2008 03:34 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy to have gotten a Locke episode. I don't care much about missing last week, cause bleh, Jack.

Who is he? He is BatManuel!

This time I finally realized the interestingness of Kate ending up raising Jack's half-nephew.
Dr. Acula[info]oontzgrrl on May 9th, 2008 05:33 pm (UTC)
Yay Locke episode! What WAS that on his arm? And that black orderly dude? Is he Jacob? These are things I ponder.
PMMJ: TV[info]cheetahmaster on May 9th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
What WAS that on his arm?

Sledgeweb called it an XM radio, which cracked me up. Worst product placement ever!

And that black orderly dude? Is he Jacob?

Well, we saw him before when he was (will be?) questioning Hurley in the asylum in the future, and in the flashback when he was organizing the 'good' rescue party with Naomi. But I doubt he's Jacob, who I currently feel is the incarnation of the island. But how does Abbadon relate to Widmore, who seemingly organized the rest of the rescue ship?
The Antichrist[info]theantichrist on May 9th, 2008 06:45 pm (UTC)
I hadn't noticed the episode's title. That's pretty damn funny.

I think the arm device is what protects them from Smokey, courtesy of Widmore. Next episode looks epic.
PMMJ: Science![info]cheetahmaster on May 9th, 2008 07:28 pm (UTC)
Then why didn't they have the arm devices on in the first place? Poor planning!
The Antichrist: Hurley-NONONO[info]theantichrist on May 9th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
Heheheh well maybe you're right. I need to believe there's some reason other than "just 'cuz" that they survived. I was hoping that they'd been wearing them previously and were just replacing them? I dunno, probably not... ;P
That Guy[info]necrocannibal on May 10th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
I thought it was a dead man's switch - he warned everyone else not to shoot him because he was wearing it - I figured the doctor put it on his arm to monitor his pulse, if the pulse goes off, a bomb explodes.
The Antichrist: Hurley-NONONO[info]theantichrist on May 10th, 2008 05:41 am (UTC)
Huh. I thought that was just a feint. You could be right though I dunno, seems like an extra thing that could go wrong on their super secret mission. Maybe though! :)
Capn[info]captain_boots on May 10th, 2008 05:15 pm (UTC)
That was my thought as well about what it was.
Alex[info]devolutionary on May 9th, 2008 07:58 pm (UTC)
Also, the Dharma symbol on the file from the safe is the same symbol on Ben's parka when he appeared in the desert.
Moira[info]pictsy on May 9th, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
Maybe Widmore knows that they can move the island, so the arm device is a locator thingy so they can still find it.
Brian: TV Static[info]vwvortexer on May 10th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
Dead 12 years? So does that mean Ben took Alex from Rousseau before he killed all the members of the Dharma Initiative?

Also, that wasn't a bottle of sand. It was a bottle of ash--like what we've seen surrounding Jacob's cabin before.
PMMJ: Adult Swim terrorist[info]cheetahmaster on May 10th, 2008 11:25 am (UTC)
Dead 12 years? So does that mean Ben took Alex from Rousseau before he killed all the members of the Dharma Initiative?

Hey, good point.

Also, that wasn't a bottle of sand. It was a bottle of ash--like what we've seen surrounding Jacob's cabin before.

Possibly, but the material in the bottle didn't look powdery like ash. Could be sand from the island.
Capn[info]captain_boots on May 10th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
Well, here are some of my own thoughts and about their stronger linking of ties to Egypt in particular.

I think there is the possibility that the mysterious black man is Jacob. He's certainly played a heavy hand in 'guiding' people who aren't on the island. Maybe that's just how Jacob appears when not on the island? I don't know. It's such a tough call, but I have to admit it's a tempting possibility to consider.

It's funny, but just his silhouette had me thinking "ALPERT", although I can NEVER remember his name! :)

Note the name 'Horace'? When I first heard him say it, I thought 'Horus', myself.

John's affinity for backgammon was pointed out strongly, and how incredibly young he was when he had a knack for it. Country of origin? Egypt. More pointing to John having a previous Egyptian life. (lives?)

I thought that the bottle might be sand as well, but in large part because of the llnks to Egypt. The grains WERE very large, though.

Along those lines, I'm trying to ponder the knife. Clearly it didn't put John out of the running as he's currently the Island's protector. Yet, Alpert clearly ran off when John chose it. If he was to be shunned, why invite him to camp later? I'm also curious about what the knife might signify. Given Horus' name coming up, I wondered if there was a Set connection. I found nothing convincing though. The compass was interesting, but there again I doubt I could find anything convincing for a direction.

Interestingly, in John's smoke-monster drawing, the person in it is bald.

PMMJ: TV[info]cheetahmaster on May 10th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
I think there is the possibility that the mysterious black man is Jacob. He's certainly played a heavy hand in 'guiding' people who aren't on the island. Maybe that's just how Jacob appears when not on the island? I don't know. It's such a tough call, but I have to admit it's a tempting possibility to consider.

I've heard that floated elsewhere, and I'm not on board. Why was Abbadon asking Hurley about the people on the island in the flashforward? Wouldn't Jacob know? Or was he just trying to spur Hurley into action?

although I can NEVER remember his name! :)

I think it was only actually mentioned once. I just hated calling him 'that guy from The Shining.'

Along those lines, I'm trying to ponder the knife. Clearly it didn't put John out of the running as he's currently the Island's protector. Yet, Alpert clearly ran off when John chose it. If he was to be shunned, why invite him to camp later?

Well, we saw Alpert was basically shadowing Locke for his whole life. And Abbadon showed up there too, for the final push. My *guess* at this juncture was that all the items were significant. John was meant to have the knife as well (after all, in s1 he was all Crazy Knife Guy) but Alpert knew that by John taking that, he wasn't ready for his role yet.

Egypt theories are interesting, but would like to see more before I sign on.

Interestingly, in John's smoke-monster drawing, the person in it is bald.

Well, he was only a little kid when he drew it. Or maybe he was drawing his second (and less happy) encounter with Smokey.
Capn[info]captain_boots on May 10th, 2008 10:53 pm (UTC)
I've heard that floated elsewhere, and I'm not on board. Why was Abbadon asking Hurley about the people on the island in the flashforward? Wouldn't Jacob know? Or was he just trying to spur Hurley into action?

I assumed it was just to spur Hurley into action, yes. It seemed to me that no matter who he is, he'd know what was going on back on the island.

Well, we saw Alpert was basically shadowing Locke for his whole life. And Abbadon showed up there too, for the final push. My *guess* at this juncture was that all the items were significant. John was meant to have the knife as well (after all, in s1 he was all Crazy Knife Guy) but Alpert knew that by John taking that, he wasn't ready for his role yet.

Ok, 'not ready' is something he did say on the way out. Given that John still has an affinity for knives, though, it makes me wonder about the significance. Maybe it was really only significant for the test .. or THAT knife in particular or something. Dunno.

The Egyptian ideas are just that. I've just noticed a pattern, in particular with John. I'd assumed he picked up backgammon much later on, but he clearly had the affinity even as a very young kid. It's just something I try to keep an eye on to see if they drop more hints along the way.

Well, he was only a little kid when he drew it. Or maybe he was drawing his second (and less happy) encounter with Smokey.

Yup, though even as a kid I could draw a mass of scribble-hair. :) It was just something I was pondering again. Are they trying to imply he can see ahead sometimes? Is it a bit of remembering the past maybe? Enquiring minds, etc. :)
Jen[info]meercat on May 12th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
bottle of... sand?

The grains were so large, I looked at and was like, "...Ovaltine?"

C'mon, it was the '50s! It could have been there to throw him off!